Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35136 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28179 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Feb 2008 17:28:16 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28164 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 17:28:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 17:28:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.179 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.179 smtpout0179.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.179] ([64.97.136.179:48838] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/38-04534-FA9F5A74 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:28:16 -0500 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769316E00901F17; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:28:08 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,7def560c17ad7e28,942ddd6a8e1e3a25,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:968:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3027:3353:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:5007:6119:6120:6261:7653,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL: none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-198.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.198]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <004301c8668a$420cbc30$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "Lester Caine" Cc: "PHP internals" References: <01c801c865d8$2e837e90$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <14581063.20080203002104@marcus-boerger.de> <005201c8660f$66a2b160$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <47A58686.60707@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:28:54 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Hi Lukas, > Correct me if I am wrong or if I am missing something, but currently > things work more or less like this. I think its important that we get > an understanding of how things are right now and what the issues are, > before we go off and solve them (maybe with the above mentioned > approach): > - most new extensions these days begin their life in PECL > - generally PECL extensions are expected to follow internals CS (but > they are not really checked if they do so) > - most extensions are not dramatically changed before inclusion to fit > PHP core, they either fit or they do not .. most extensions are > actually either developed with the idea of eventually being included > or they will most likely never make it into core (Steph already gave > an example, that some PECL extensions tend to be much liberal with the > use of Exceptions than is currently accepted in php-src) > - if an extension is added to php-src, it is done through symlinking > the PECL and php-src CVS > - a few extension are also removed from php-src .. I am not quite sure > how the process is there, but I presume the code is removed in php-src > and checked into PECL CVS > - ... (please complete this list) - No QA. - Steph