Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pdo Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35129 php.pdo:108 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31064 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Feb 2008 09:39:59 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31030 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 09:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 09:39:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 85.10.196.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.196.195 serveforce1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.10.196.195] ([85.10.196.195:47495] helo=serveforce1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BF/C3-01807-BEB85A74 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:39:55 -0500 Received: from Soitgoes (p57BB6566.dip.t-dialin.net [87.187.101.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by serveforce1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B96122462C; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:39:46 +0100 (CET) Cc: Marcus Boerger , Pierre Joye , pdo@lists.php.net, internals Message-ID: <787BC2C2-1065-41D6-8017-0F474EB6DAFD@pooteeweet.org> To: Markus Fischer In-Reply-To: <47A575A9.7060903@fischer.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:39:25 +0100 References: <00ce01c865c2$22f23aa0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <510220265.20080202204406@marcus-boerger.de> <019c01c865d5$2ebbacf0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <155955105.20080203001830@marcus-boerger.de> <1497821512.20080203014611@marcus-boerger.de> <47A575A9.7060903@fischer.name> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.09, required 6, AWL -0.01, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-From: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Hi, I know I have been guilty of formulating my concerns about PDO's history in an unfortunate way that turned out to sound more like a personal attack on Wez, than a sound technical commentary (which is all that counts on an OSS mailinglist). So I cannot pretend to have a white vest in this regard. However lets not venture there again. I think what Marcus was trying to say is that he wants to continue the discussion and he felt that Pierre was trying to shut it down. Now from what I gather from Pierre, he is simply still not convinced. Its not like Pierre is against "the evil cooperations" as is illustrated by the countless times he has helped people get things going with their PECL packages regardless of their background (cooperate or just private interest). So once again lets make an extra effort to stay clear of personal attacks. As such I was very happy when Marcus clarified that he did not feel personally attacked by Tony's comments. Because yes, most of us knew what Tony was expressing and it certainly wasn't an attack. Though without knowing him it might have sounded like that. regards, Lukas