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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Steph Fox wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
> 
>>  what I want is php-src as minimum you can depend on. And php-default as
>> release managers playground. The RM can then say what he thinks is mature
>> enough to make it into a release.
> 
> What _I_ want is a PHP core that is really core. By that I mean things 
> like: date, spl, pcre, zlib, filter, simplexml, core-ish stuff such as 
> PDO (no PDO drivers, unless we bundle SQLite as we could/should IMHO so 
> there's a working DB for all), and underlying libs like libxml and 
> mysqlnd that will make life easier for the many. I think what is 
> distributed with PHP should be built-in and enabled by default, and it 
> should include the basic essentials for making a simple website without 
> anything else being added - and nothing more.

This opens another can of worms :(
Why include installation specific stuff in the core. MySQL was dropped as the 
default for a reason lets not reintroduce it.
Not bothering much WITH MySQL ( other than ensuring that SQL generated in my 
projects will still run on it ) I see that this new mysqlnd module is intended 
to SUPPORT PDO. Is THIS the way forward, building native drivers that can be 
used via PDO or is it just a another indication that one needs both PDO and a 
native driver?

> Everything else - the fashionistas (JSON, xmlreader/writer) and the 
> downright useful for some but not all (fileinfo, json, com_dotnet, 
> posix) and the quirky stuff (pretty much anything Sara came up with) - 
> should be in PECL.
> 
> A release managers playground? Maybe we should look at PHP core + a 
> 'recommended' PECL release that ships with it, and refer everyone to 
> pecl.php.net/pecl4win.php.net for anything else.
> 
> This assuming the problems I listed earlier are dealt with, natch.
> 
> - Steph


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