Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pdo Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35125 php.pdo:107 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13157 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Feb 2008 08:05:29 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13116 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=markus@fischer.name; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=markus@fischer.name; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fischer.name from 62.179.121.40 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: markus@fischer.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.179.121.40 viefep20-int.chello.at Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [62.179.121.40] ([62.179.121.40:47928] helo=viefep20-int.chello.at) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/F0-01807-9B575A74 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:05:19 -0500 Received: from genuine.home ([84.112.136.139]) by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080203080509.FEXD6825.viefep20-int.chello.at@genuine.home>; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:05:09 +0100 Received: from ncvielp07.home ([192.168.1.51]) by genuine.home with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1JLZqT-00023f-T0; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: <47A575A9.7060903@fischer.name> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:04:57 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: Pierre Joye , pdo@lists.php.net, internals References: <00ce01c865c2$22f23aa0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <510220265.20080202204406@marcus-boerger.de> <019c01c865d5$2ebbacf0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <155955105.20080203001830@marcus-boerger.de> <1497821512.20080203014611@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1497821512.20080203014611@marcus-boerger.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=C2272BD0; url=http://markus.fischer.name/my_public_key.txt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -41 X-Spam-Level: ---- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "genuine.home", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, sorry to jump into here [...] Content analysis details: (-4.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts -2.0 BAYES_20 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 5 to 20% [score: 0.1249] 1.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Subject: Re: An Idea for PDO 2 From: markus@fischer.name (Markus Fischer) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, sorry to jump into here Marcus Boerger wrote: | I spoke about you as you left no room for discussions. You are not willing | to compromise in any way, nor are you willing to be productive in any way. | So there is no way in keeping you in discussions, is there? And no, we are | no having any closed discussions. But we are having discussions because we | want progress, productivity and we like to get more help. But, Marcus, this sounds very strange. Unless someone shares the same ideology with you he is being escorted away from the discussions? Your point about Pierre "You are not willing to compromise in any way, nor are you willing to be productive in any way." is something I can absolutely not follow. I've read every single email. Just because you could not convince him with your ideas (or, for the matter, the ideas of the newly suggested process from Wez and others) does *not* mean is in unwilling. It simply means you have not found arguments to convince him. The only thing I can read between the lines is some kind of impatience and, please excuse my wording but is on purpose, it sounds immature. Long to short: "Unless you think the way we think, we don't want you here." You make it sound like "progress, productivity and get more help" is only accepted in the direction you're heading. But for openness and democracy this is not acceptable. thanks for reading this, - - Markus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHpXWp1nS0RcInK9ARAnBZAJ928I83vNN23bhkXZ82mowy6VuV9QCeI3Q5 oQ98shWUEDyOoyC3GgR+8YM= =uquW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----