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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship
From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox")

Hi Marcus,

>  what I want is php-src as minimum you can depend on. And php-default as
> release managers playground. The RM can then say what he thinks is mature
> enough to make it into a release.

What _I_ want is a PHP core that is really core. By that I mean things like: 
date, spl, pcre, zlib, filter, simplexml, core-ish stuff such as PDO (no PDO 
drivers, unless we bundle SQLite as we could/should IMHO so there's a 
working DB for all), and underlying libs like libxml and mysqlnd that will 
make life easier for the many. I think what is distributed with PHP should 
be built-in and enabled by default, and it should include the basic 
essentials for making a simple website without anything else being added - 
and nothing more.

Everything else - the fashionistas (JSON, xmlreader/writer) and the 
downright useful for some but not all (fileinfo, json, com_dotnet, posix) 
and the quirky stuff (pretty much anything Sara came up with) - should be in 
PECL.

A release managers playground? Maybe we should look at PHP core + a 
'recommended' PECL release that ships with it, and refer everyone to 
pecl.php.net/pecl4win.php.net for anything else.

This assuming the problems I listed earlier are dealt with, natch.

- Steph