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Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 01:17:33 +0100
To: "Marcus Boerger" <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2
From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye")

On Feb 2, 2008 12:51 AM, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Pierre,
>
>   in some places of the world what he wrote might be ok in the way he
> wrote it.

In every places in the world you have to respect the existing rules
and usages or you better have to leave if you don't want to. That does
not mean that you can't have an influence on them once you are in.

> In some this wouldn't be acceptable at all. Contributing to PHP
> for a long time now and knowing Tony I a) couldn't care less and b) guess I
> know what he wanted to say and prefer to understand it as such.

c) you know exactly what he meant and who are (is) the target.

> Either way, this is a polictical & strategical move. One that has a bunch of
> implications for which most peolple would need to read three times at least
> to understand them all.

Exactly and I see absolutely nothing that can change my view or
opinion on this topic. There is other very large projects out there
where major or leading companies contribute, there is no CLA, there is
no restriction. In some cases, they are even kept outside as long as
they don't want to follow the usages and rules of the given projects.

That being said, where are the complains? Who is actually pushing the
CLA in? I mean outside Zend and related? Why did they not post
something to actually explain their views? Or are they afraid to say
that they can't support PHP if there is no CLA? Well, I would be
afraid too, especially when I know that I have to support PHP anyway.
At least if I want to keep my piece of the web cake .

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre
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