Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pdo Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35088 php.pdo:73 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26471 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Feb 2008 23:52:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26440 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2008 23:52:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Feb 2008 23:52:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 85.214.94.56 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:44612] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/B8-04011-2A0B3A74 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:52:02 -0500 Received: from MBOERGER-ZRH.corp.google.com (202-168.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.79.168.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E281B3669; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:51:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:51:28 +0100 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <182753297.20080202005128@marcus-boerger.de> To: "Pierre Joye" CC: "Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg" , "Antony Dovgal" , , "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: References: <37388396.20080201212653@marcus-boerger.de> <47A395BA.9020707@daylessday.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Pierre, in some places of the world what he wrote might be ok in the way he wrote it. In some this wouldn't be acceptable at all. Contributing to PHP for a long time now and knowing Tony I a) couldn't care less and b) guess I know what he wanted to say and prefer to understand it as such. Either way, this is a polictical & strategical move. One that has a bunch of implications for which most peolple would need to read three times at least to understand them all. marcus Friday, February 1, 2008, 11:20:33 PM, you wrote: > On Feb 1, 2008 11:10 PM, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg > wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Antony Dovgal wrote: >> >> > On 01.02.2008 23:26, Marcus Boerger wrote: >> > > Sorry for not writing this earlier. So how does this idea sound? >> > >> > It sounds quite bad. >> > >> > If you want to do something good for PHP - either respect its rules, or go away. >> > Changing the rules to fit your needs is not acceptable. >> >> I don't have a particular horse to back in this race, and I realize >> people are passionate on both sides, but can we please have a polite >> discussion on this topic? > There was nothing not polite in Tony's reply. >> Furthermore, I think Marcus has contributed enough to PHP that he does >> not deserve to hear that what would be good for PHP is for him to "go >> away." PDO opinions aside, I don't think any of us would actually >> think that would put PHP in a more healthy situation. > The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when > it is not necessary to contribute. It has been proven already since > months on a nearly daily basis. > For example: > http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/discuss/msgReader$268 > and the numerous contributions from IBM people. > -- > Pierre > http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org Best regards, Marcus