Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pdo Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35082 php.pdo:71 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99379 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Feb 2008 22:20:38 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99364 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2008 22:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Feb 2008 22:20:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.190 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.190 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.190] ([209.85.198.190:22197] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F4/54-04011-33B93A74 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:20:38 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so841204rvb.23 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:20:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RdDjdGIWktN1+BFg4khaUM0Iyx2sznGP+wRoKSLIKpU=; b=Zo+Tv49drWo5ii6G4eZR5PSNlPSZSqwoNZ8R4fg0hkYvtQIQ785wkhW1iaOPQWcNgR6JA8+saLA90b4T5JFMTvU/iIOcuOCeJPn7D3SkaDac5rhHbC6N7fBT2xXyr+iQRXKzBYwwGpcS157OQs2MwkFhgw40hty88Wfs9bTXS70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m5HK9lC1sJ08+ZKl4WI4Q/ZgBbd+llmZWUfxwLkCA6sCojVsAue3oKdB4FGNTw9NbIHsoUxEX5Wzo+M67TUj8iW5KTv4RnAaRTBanD4sZexg3GuG3PyFax6Zmla9xBSHgF5tfLXvM3DX8KyIzuCSYxKfJN5WCKN5yGZMoWLGWe8= Received: by 10.141.74.17 with SMTP id b17mr2844394rvl.144.1201904433214; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.151.21 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:20:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 23:20:33 +0100 To: "Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg" Cc: "Antony Dovgal" , "Marcus Boerger" , pdo@lists.php.net, "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37388396.20080201212653@marcus-boerger.de> <47A395BA.9020707@daylessday.org> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Feb 1, 2008 11:10 PM, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Antony Dovgal wrote: > > > On 01.02.2008 23:26, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > > Sorry for not writing this earlier. So how does this idea sound? > > > > It sounds quite bad. > > > > If you want to do something good for PHP - either respect its rules, or go away. > > Changing the rules to fit your needs is not acceptable. > > I don't have a particular horse to back in this race, and I realize > people are passionate on both sides, but can we please have a polite > discussion on this topic? There was nothing not polite in Tony's reply. > Furthermore, I think Marcus has contributed enough to PHP that he does > not deserve to hear that what would be good for PHP is for him to "go > away." PDO opinions aside, I don't think any of us would actually > think that would put PHP in a more healthy situation. The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when it is not necessary to contribute. It has been proven already since months on a nearly daily basis. For example: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/discuss/msgReader$268 and the numerous contributions from IBM people. -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org