Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34915 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76024 invoked by uid 1010); 24 Jan 2008 01:51:09 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76009 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 01:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 01:51:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.140 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.140 smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.140] ([64.97.136.140:2960] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2D/41-17042-C0FE7974 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:51:09 -0500 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47697705007B2C7A; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:51:04 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,12e7f04f50649904,a1a5b04c56777945,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1537:1560:1587:1593:1594:1676:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:3027:3865:3868:3873:3874:4699:5007:6120:6261:7653,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-198.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.198]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <009c01c85e2b$b1ca02b0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Rasmus Lerdorf" , "Andrei Zmievski" Cc: "php-dev" References: <4794AE48.20005@daylessday.org> <38791.98.193.37.55.1201055548.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <47979570.4010703@lerdorf.com> <4797E196.3090404@gravitonic.com> <4797EDDF.8050307@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:51:50 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") > The question here isn't so much where we are going, but exactly how we > will get there and how long that might take. Absolutely. - Steph (who has taken several queries over this today thank you)