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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP
From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox")

Well maybe half the problem with this is that people aren't really aware of 
what is or isn't the issue. As I (now) understand it, the only people 
affected by Unicode support will be those currently using mbstring, is that 
correct?

- Steph

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrei Zmievski" <andrei@gravitonic.com>
To: "Steph Fox" <steph@zend.com>
Cc: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@lerdorf.com>; "Chris Stockton" 
<chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com>; "php-dev" <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP


> Hey, I can't do everything.
>
> -Andrei
>
> Steph Fox wrote:
>> Right, and that's something that does NOT appear in any notes anywhere.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrei Zmievski" 
>> <andrei@gravitonic.com>
>> To: "Steph Fox" <steph@zend.com>
>> Cc: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@lerdorf.com>; "Chris Stockton" 
>> <chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com>; "php-dev" <internals@lists.php.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch 
>> ASAP
>>
>>
>>> Pass in "Hello World" where? And yes, you shouldn't have to do anything 
>>> special (especially for English). The functions will work transparently.
>>>
>>> -Andrei
>>>
>>> Steph Fox wrote:
>>>> Hey Andrei,
>>>>
>>>> You can't just say that without giving full details.
>>>>
>>>> We've seen all your 'this will cope with Russian, Hebrew, Greek, 
>>>> Japanese and Icelandic' demos. We haven't seen what happens to English, 
>>>> French or German - ever.
>>>>
>>>> So what happens if I pass in "Hello World", in English, and it's 
>>>> regarded as an an IS_UNICODE string? Would I know about it? Is there 
>>>> anything special I should do? Or does it just happen as always, and 
>>>> what-was-all-the-fuss-about?
>>>>
>>>> - Steph