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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:05:00 -0800
To: "Chris Stockton" <chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP
From: lisavee83@gmail.com ("Lisa Vee83")

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On Jan 23, 2008 11:14 AM, Chris Stockton <chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I partially agree, I have been watching this discussion and it's funny
> how we have such a class of high end developers saying to break old
> PHP code. But, the majority of the success of PHP is not due to this
> small class of high end developers, it's due to it's availability in a
> shared hosting environment, and the ease of use for beginners, and the
> oodles of fairly poor quality code that is easy to copy and paste onto
> peoples websites.
>
> Look at the adoption of php4, many webhosts haven't even updated to
> PHP5 completely due to things like register_globals and small
> backwards compatibility breakage. The list of problems is small and
> correctable, if you give system engineers at all of these hosting
> companies the choice of A. Upgrade to php6 and drive support calls
> through the roof, or B. Stay at PHP4/5 for eternity until a more
> (insert your complaints / rants here) language comes along to dethrone
> PHP.
>
> Problem is, PHP has been built to great success based on it's early
> foundation, but now a group of high class developers want it to be
> more then PHP was built onto. You will sacrifice it's success if
> backwards compatibility is not just, broke, but obliterated. Why
> change PHP's philosophy? Keep it easy for the new user, keep it
> successful, and make me work a little more when I want to implement my
> "high class" development methodologies. I don't mind, I do it already.
>
> I write this as a "high class" developer.
>
> -1
>
> -Chris
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 7:32 PM, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, January 21, 2008 8:38 am, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> > >
> > > 6 reasons why we must to get rid of The Switch ASAP
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I was +1...
> >
> > Until folks started posting that old PHP scripts won't run as-is in
> > PHP 6?...
> >
> > That's just daft...
> >
> > When my webhost upgrades to PHP 6, I need all my old scripts to just
> > keep on chugging away, as much as possible...
> >
> > I really think we're stuck with the default "string" being an
> > old-school binary string, unless you want to lose a LOT of users in a
> > hurry, or have PHP 5 stick around forever and ever.
> >
> > --
> > Some people have a "gift" link here.
> > Know what I want?
> > I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist.
> > http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch
> > Yeah, I get a buck. So?
> >
> >
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