Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34903 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48906 invoked by uid 1010); 24 Jan 2008 00:53:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48891 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 00:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 00:53:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andrei@gravitonic.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andrei@gravitonic.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain gravitonic.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andrei@gravitonic.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 mail.lerdorf.com Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:49250] helo=mail.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A9/6C-17042-0A1E7974 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:53:53 -0500 Received: from Macintosh-3.local (206-15-64-202.static.twtelecom.net [206.15.64.202]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.lerdorf.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2) with ESMTP id m0O0rg8T031385; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:53:43 -0800 Message-ID: <4797E196.3090404@gravitonic.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:53:42 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070807) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Lerdorf CC: Chris Stockton , php-dev References: <4794AE48.20005@daylessday.org> <38791.98.193.37.55.1201055548.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <47979570.4010703@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <47979570.4010703@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5532/Wed Jan 23 13:08:36 2008 on colo.lerdorf.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP From: andrei@gravitonic.com (Andrei Zmievski) Did you mean to say "can't make the default string IS_STRING"? Because that's the only reading that makes sense given the rest of the message. -Andrei Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > If we get rid of the switch, then I agree that we can't make the default > string IS_UNICODE. We would be crippling the implementation and taking > a step backwards in terms of leading the way in Unicode adoption. The > longterm goal for just about everyone has got to be a "Unicode > everywhere" approach. It used to be that the Web was primarily a > Western single-byte charset phenomena, but that hasn't been the case for > years. All major applications out there have implemented various hacks > to deal with these issues, some with more success than others.