Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34876 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18419 invoked by uid 1010); 22 Jan 2008 07:52:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18404 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2008 07:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2008 07:52:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 85.10.196.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.196.195 serveforce1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.10.196.195] ([85.10.196.195:60491] helo=serveforce1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D4/C6-64254-CC0A5974 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:52:45 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by serveforce1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D2912241B7; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:53:08 +0100 (CET) Cc: "Steph Fox" , "Stas Malyshev" , "Antony Dovgal" , Message-ID: <333DB930-E11B-438D-A569-4ABA2F581B67@pooteeweet.org> To: Andi Gutmans In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0124CA73@us-ex1.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:52:21 +0100 References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0124CA03@us-ex1.zend.net> <005901c85c91$590963a0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <479544F0.4060608@zend.com> <007701c85c96$585a45a0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0124CA73@us-ex1.zend.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.131, required 6, AWL 0.03, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-From: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] why we must get rid of unicode.semantics switch ASAP From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 22.01.2008, at 04:14, Andi Gutmans wrote: > I don't think this affects PHP 5.3 (http://wiki.pooteeweet.org/PhP53VoteResult > ) which I believe we're making good progress on. It allows us to get > some of those features out earlier including things like namespaces > which the various framework communities badly need. It will also > allow many users who need ICU functionality to start using APIs > which will be forward compatible with PHP 6. Yeah, I really think our focus should be to put as many non BC breaking features into PHP 5.3 that were originally targeted for 6.0. This seems like the best thing for our users, even if that means people will be slower in migrating to PHP6. @Johannes: Are we ready to start building some momentum around 5.3 (and thereby indirectly towards 6.0)? regards, Lukas