Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34750 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62201 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jan 2008 19:17:21 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62186 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2008 19:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2008 19:17:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.175 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.175 smtpout0175.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.175] ([64.97.136.175:20598] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D1/3F-09267-EB0C7874 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:17:20 -0500 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 476977050055CB78; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:17:11 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,505c274d57106279,a1d2b88e4644423f,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:967:973:980:988:989:1042:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2378:2379:2380:2393:2525:2560:2564:2682:2685:2692:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250: 4321:4886:5007:6119:6261:7679:7682,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (unknown [64.97.206.40]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <031701c85486$ae0ce290$4001a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Sam Barrow" Cc: References: <1200066425.7376.9.camel@johannes.nop> <1200075842.16083.44.camel@johannes.nop> <1200077257.12559.7.camel@sbarrow-desktop> <4787BE7C.6080205@zend.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:17:58 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") >> It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience >> levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the >> population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few. > > No, it is not. This has nothing to do with "fairness", as we are not > enacting laws, levying taxes or distributing subsidies here. To have input > from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it is not > the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of whoever cares to > vote on technical questions. Is this one in particular really 'a technical question'? To me it looks more like a simple decision about whether or not to bring new syntax into the core, which would affect every user out there and which is really more to do with peoples' ideas about what constitues simplicity. Most of the time I'd agree that the discussions held on this list are rather more technical by nature and there's a real problem with people who really don't understand the ramifications chiming in, but this is a bit different. - Steph (who has no interest whatever in seeing 500+ emails a week on internals@ or in adding sugar just "because it's there") > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect > stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ > (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >