Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34746 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56720 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jan 2008 19:06:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56704 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2008 19:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2008 19:06:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=olivier.hill@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=olivier.hill@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.220.159 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: olivier.hill@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.220.159 fg-out-1718.google.com Received: from [72.14.220.159] ([72.14.220.159:7944] helo=fg-out-1718.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9B/1E-09267-E4EB7874 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:06:56 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1169600fge.23 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:06:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ymhG7dbcfnNDcVVxp7q4ZWQSJKe8CbN3pzDDxWMHlno=; b=tA3n9+x8fOhSUoYIpynHLnANlNFtxuyHNsMRTCz6RpHyW/sTF864W++QVl/222mx6WBCf+Lzkyo4Viy1fJDP3wPTgF7e14vFiYtm9NHk9JpxRLbsVm6rd0OHttsss0z1l/B1rtfdJw3+gBFb/WN2S2lJJaSvhe/GG+gAMVrm7yI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Y2uCr1NTpjCtTJoOY9Qp1yUFxmT/QYSfmc3VTGmkceuFs0INjs5d9QD/cf1L5md/bU/1LLiMobGqqaSsROWJ+Yi0scIXiLgZUKbixKzEHOwhO0M5OzX6Wzm3iicJ+Z8i86VtKzx7Ic4yv/Ztc17Fw5gD6/1W4HGQ7mxb+52INcU= Received: by 10.86.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr3246457fgb.51.1200078414286; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.30.1 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:06:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:06:54 -0500 Sender: olivier.hill@gmail.com To: "Sam Barrow" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <1200077257.12559.7.camel@sbarrow-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1200066425.7376.9.camel@johannes.nop> <1200075842.16083.44.camel@johannes.nop> <1200077257.12559.7.camel@sbarrow-desktop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1fb32ae5d2732063 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax From: ohill@php.net ("Olivier Hill") On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow wrote: > > True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should > have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are > all users and developers. Not when some write anything about everything without knowing anything about nothing (makes sense?) > It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience > levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the > population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few. It is not under the control of anyone. The principle is: Contribute and your voice will be louder. It's easy to have a CVS account, and it's easy to fix some bugs and submit patches. That way, you prove that your voice can count and that you at least know what you are talking about (I'm not talking about you in particular, but any user that wants to contribute and have a voting voice that counts) One way could be that votes from internal / phpdoc counts twice as much as people that only leech this list. It's not controlling, but being sure that future decision about the language are made considering the opinions of people really knowing what's at stake. Regards, Olivier