Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34644 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10664 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Jan 2008 14:24:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10649 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2008 14:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2008 14:24:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 85.10.196.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.196.195 serveforce1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.10.196.195] ([85.10.196.195:46672] helo=serveforce1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8B/26-59671-28A26874 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:24:03 -0500 Received: from [192.168.84.62] (office-zh.liip.ch [91.192.102.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by serveforce1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49321224BB2; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:24:16 +0100 (CET) Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: To: Tomi Kaistila In-Reply-To: <200801101612.30430.tomi@cumulo.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:23:54 +0100 References: <1665325616.20080110111902@marcus-boerger.de> <7f3ed2c30801100556y14b27d5es24eb8865b9f330e2@mail.gmail.com> <200801101612.30430.tomi@cumulo.fi> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0, required 6) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-From: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Square brackets shortcut From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Tomi Kaistila wrote: > Well if confusing is the goal, then yes, since this is classic Perl. > > I started using PHP, instead of Perl, just so that I would not need > play > around with confusing syntax. Right, PHP was always about making it easy to see whats going on and more importantly to at least be able to quickly look something up in the manual. Maybe the better approach would be to hide "array" inside the browser and magically add it if its "missing". regards, Lukas