Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34361 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47729 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Jan 2008 21:58:39 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47713 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 21:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 21:58:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianm@dealnews.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianm@dealnews.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain dealnews.com designates 129.41.69.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianm@dealnews.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 129.41.69.185 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [129.41.69.185] ([129.41.69.185:58090] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 00/AE-20810-E8A5D774 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:58:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 6148 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 21:58:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dealnews.com) (10.1.1.7) by -H with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 3 Jan 2008 21:58:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10291 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 21:58:35 -0000 Received: from h61.27.91.75.ip.alltel.net (HELO macdough.local) (brianm@[75.91.27.61]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.dealnews.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2008 21:58:35 -0000 Message-ID: <477D5A8A.4080903@dealnews.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:58:34 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <200801031903.01980.tomi@cumulo.fi> <1199380881.15292.11.camel@sbarrow-desktop> <20080103172813.GQ7861@mint.phcomp.co.uk> <477D2B40.9010302@fischer.name> <477D2CDB.3000005@zend.com> <477D452A.9090906@zend.com> <1199392531.15292.64.camel@sbarrow-desktop> <477D4ACF.3030006@zend.com> <1199395138.15292.72.camel@sbarrow-desktop> <477D58ED.6030101@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <477D58ED.6030101@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: Optional scalar type hinting From: brianm@dealnews.com (Brian Moon) I don't get it. We already have type hinting, just not for scalars. The discussion seems to be about whether or not we should have it all. But, the truth is, we have it. We half way have it. I fought for it to be all or nothing back then and I still think it is half done that we don't have scalar type hinting but we have array/object/class type hinting. Talk about inconsistency. So, can we switch the mundane conversation from "should we have type hinting" to "why don't we have scalar type hinting if we have non-scalar type hinting?" That is the real conversation. Type hinting is here. It is not going anywhere. Let's finish the job. -- Brian Moon Senior Developer ------------------------------ When you care enough to spend the very least. http://dealnews.com/