Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34315 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9989 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Jan 2008 17:35:35 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9973 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2008 17:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Jan 2008 17:35:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.186 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.186 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.186] ([209.85.198.186:60164] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B1/96-51974-5E97A774 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:35:34 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so4015763rvb.23 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:35:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qjw5g/QB59ZFFqXHJoSfU7xK6v8ezij6hwA3pB2jouI=; b=reIy7F8EJItvz0rnsbAd78CAjbtdM3UoggwCieE9QZjegSBAVncV9KWexYcVtsaaec46JeScj39MXoTQioqQMeXyUPIutueCfNp7ICqhS2cOttp0ErVbgMBaNfHhobxiyhDHzNShFtUjpU9biVgHGz/Revzae8+SjWZsgXhJhJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YyDhRpt6UFbjnUtM7mh4Z3IZGdb7HIJtAO7GlHHSX60VpOeO5zHgu+lm/EryakNS9IbGY7In/8TP3noU+M9WEpQtyc+Bau7FLMY3iUBowxL86stKR73BLxH8cRMsnvTKSfpdeynUY+hLX1VK3BBQQTzmUFTILmtZ+2ZO/DQVAvo= Received: by 10.140.187.10 with SMTP id k10mr2753877rvf.95.1199208928676; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.177.21 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:35:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:35:28 +0100 To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?=" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <1199206970.27543.30.camel@johannes.nop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <99cd336d0712280356v680cc82fh3b1396c9c608bb96@mail.gmail.com> <99cd336d0712281728g6659d7e6pa3ed92db5574e63b@mail.gmail.com> <1944505528.20071230185830@marcus-boerger.de> <1668621659.20071231224547@marcus-boerger.de> <1199206970.27543.30.camel@johannes.nop> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] spl_autoload vs __autoload From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On Jan 1, 2008 6:02 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 22:45 +0100, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > Hello Johannes, > > > > I agree with Pierre here. How about finally making SPL built in > > always > > like ext/standard? > > First some statistics: According to my numbers[1], which are as wrong as > most other statistics about such stuff. 1% (36 of 3573) of the PHP 5 > installations have SPL disabled. So imo having it not forced-on is not a > big problem for users. The point is to do not have to worry about it being disabled. Besides that statistics are pretty useless in this case (consider a large intranet full of spless setups where you have to work and you are done...). > So in the end I'm +1 on the proposal for 5.3. so let enable it :) > > On a related note: Imo for users the real problems are different > extensions, which we won't enable by default (due to their dependency on > external stuff) and which might be available on some host or different > php.ini settings. For instance I was once annoyed by zlib not being > available on a shared host or png not available for gd. ISP not providing PNG? go to another :) But I thought we can't build ext/gd without png, I have to check that again. Happy new year :) --=20 Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org