Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34014 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45821 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 15:54:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45806 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 15:54:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 15:54:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rquadling@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rquadling@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 64.233.162.239 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rquadling@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.239 nz-out-0506.google.com Received: from [64.233.162.239] ([64.233.162.239:37417] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 74/C2-10047-BC551674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:54:51 -0500 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id x7so376008nzc.38 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rUKVu3HD5r3rm7vh0r8cSRS3ANn9l4brvdT3r2waeq8=; b=QD5q429ZXKRpb4eik9vI6DmLltPKGpv7qr2zY86igR6QiXTV3KhdMJ4p2FNxJFXFRDqiOG3Ts0xpoBLxAg1GSPJ3wk715ZJIfUaOkyDmoXNb8xG4Z3zYjEb2SAP1asK3ufGTVaNsimH/o6/D7nm1fCyCRjx9TbJsDuREbKbwrZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=prUJ2rQuQFwxS0tIhnKqStPnyQZHbClsc6J1Z9l1elfwCdZ4FVAohVYoqZF9gp6EUt7CoC3LoEtuYpve3BySRQ7k0b0j2/1NXpR/n6U1aY/f5gagcde9k8mYHQNEIZti7kkD8KsdPsLPrXF9+bLiApc3h4TgxxlJCU8tTCtTGxM= Received: by 10.115.32.1 with SMTP id k1mr2416578waj.66.1197561287458; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.210.8 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10845a340712130754y2c66c22cnc509814d203d85a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:54:47 +0000 Reply-To: RQuadling@GoogleMail.com To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi Cc: "Jochem Maas" , "internals Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <1197554487.27917.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613566.5070609@iamjochem.com> <1197554487.27917.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only From: rquadling@googlemail.com ("Richard Quadling") On 13/12/2007, Jani Taskinen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 14:36 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > > I would hazard to say that php is becoming a victim of it's own success in > > this regard - to really tackle the issue would probably require the implementation > > of a more structured proposal/implementation/release process ... I will grant that > > that is a mammoth task to undertake! > > We already have that, it's called "Feature/Change request" category in > bugs.php.net (which is of course ignored by everyone :) Oh. Really? I just added a useful one to fix the stupid way non optional params are returned as False. Sure it is how it has always been, but talk about counter-intuitive! -t[-+] is the proposal by the way with -t- being the default as that is what is currently done. Wouldn't break backwards as -+ are not allowed in a param name. -- ----- Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"