Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34011 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37908 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 15:46:45 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37891 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 15:46:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 15:46:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.137 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.137 smtpout0137.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.137] ([64.97.136.137:40975] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 08/91-10047-6A351674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:46:35 -0500 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47586C8900120956; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:45:26 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,ebbdb567ebf672a8,60a4e8566ec4149d,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:960:967:973:978:980:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2199:2393:2525:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2693:2828:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944: 4250:4886:5007:6119:6248:6261:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (unknown [64.97.206.40]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <026c01c83d9f$424a5040$e6dfc350@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Daniel Brown" , "Sean Coates" Cc: "Andrew Rose" , "internals Mailing List" References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613538.1060308@wikimedia.org> <1197553571.27917.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613EEE.5090305@richgray.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:45:57 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") C'mon guys, you're just not trying. Some of us stand to lose bets here... > On Dec 13, 2007 10:19 AM, Sean Coates wrote: >> > 2.) Probably a better idea, just click that DELETE button on any >> > emails you don't feel like reading or responding to. I find that, in >> > a case study performed by myself just now, it takes me about a >> > half-second to achieve success with this method. > [snip!] >> >> However, because Jani's original post was buried in the middle of YET >> ANOTHER ridiculous debate on the "best" namespace operator, I actually >> had to go back to my trash and dig out the original mail after seeing >> Greg's reply and quoted text. I would never have seen it because I got >> trigger happy because almost all of this thread was absolute junk. > > Yeah, I can empathize with that. You have a point; I had to do > the same on my end. Still, even if it's reduced to only current PHP > developers (which I wholeheartedly think is a Bad Idea[TM]), you're > still going to have SNR issues because the developers will still be > going back-and-forth. It happens an ALL mailing lists --- even the > IETF lists (though there, at least, it's very self-regulated, at least > for now). > > -- > Daniel P. Brown > [Phone Numbers Go Here!] > [They're Hidden From View!] > > If at first you don't succeed, stick to what you know best so that you > can make enough money to pay someone else to do it for you. > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >