Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34010 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20321 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 15:26:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20306 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 15:26:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 15:26:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=parasane@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=parasane@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.202.182 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: parasane@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.202.182 ro-out-1112.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [72.14.202.182] ([72.14.202.182:54279] helo=ro-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 57/3F-10047-14F41674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:26:58 -0500 Received: by ro-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p7so908243roc.1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OR68fathpOYp13dGCnRJnBvggjnniHMk9Bl0Et4Y9sE=; b=YcEOQ/6OnPtrurGHlzxuUy6KTm4oAkPCLNm5cr3nFlRPqmZ1/a8yZztpym1K6oVQ6RECWZ+5fLDylPXHB8yTgz++b0ZYGUOpv1XZUaS5c+WsdETBcl8rM3OPZ2PrS+eesafwA5mokcG+1yNJGgEkmLJw13Wu63bd+r13Bni7ZJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JEQFhe4PfocB9n+PXJQfhGIzLE3Nk3hkgTg7yc+eBnE9Rymh8WryVYvm0HJGsjlAtB3T3dcw3prg8ZtshBhvoLLInt5OPSLB2kxcLyvfpAFtfSqNFNEMED1yKEMw2LefMagHBmLNfnhxSHapyd8XhXo06bbIIWyh6VcJSHEzP8M= Received: by 10.141.113.6 with SMTP id q6mr1176385rvm.36.1197559615131; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.52.8 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:26:55 -0500 To: "Sean Coates" Cc: "Andrew Rose" , "internals Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613538.1060308@wikimedia.org> <1197553571.27917.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613EEE.5090305@richgray.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only From: parasane@gmail.com ("Daniel Brown") On Dec 13, 2007 10:19 AM, Sean Coates wrote: > > 2.) Probably a better idea, just click that DELETE button on any > > emails you don't feel like reading or responding to. I find that, in > > a case study performed by myself just now, it takes me about a > > half-second to achieve success with this method. [snip!] > > However, because Jani's original post was buried in the middle of YET > ANOTHER ridiculous debate on the "best" namespace operator, I actually > had to go back to my trash and dig out the original mail after seeing > Greg's reply and quoted text. I would never have seen it because I got > trigger happy because almost all of this thread was absolute junk. Yeah, I can empathize with that. You have a point; I had to do the same on my end. Still, even if it's reduced to only current PHP developers (which I wholeheartedly think is a Bad Idea[TM]), you're still going to have SNR issues because the developers will still be going back-and-forth. It happens an ALL mailing lists --- even the IETF lists (though there, at least, it's very self-regulated, at least for now). -- Daniel P. Brown [Phone Numbers Go Here!] [They're Hidden From View!] If at first you don't succeed, stick to what you know best so that you can make enough money to pay someone else to do it for you.