Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:34000 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84271 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 14:32:06 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84254 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1:25651]) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ECSTREAM id 8B/C8-10047-D5241674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:31:58 -0500 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rich06@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rich06@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.182.189 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rich06@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.182.189 nf-out-0910.google.com Received: from [64.233.182.189] ([64.233.182.189:14192] helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EC/48-10047-A1F31674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:18:03 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e27so563731nfd.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:18:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=VgCpmt5nFVl0WazYB+w/evBUEQzdv7s6bUXlWmviuts=; b=chDsc85ImjXlwN/Ru5zw4e6pVQaniFLeQ50bMIgy47LUTmQtgKRcJ0D5WJ9TsiWuYs7UoP1dDYZrQkQS8n7Xr8c+wnxclH7jKx0tHepNcUMbl54W+j52GCt+y094Oqwge1nLOGi5q+tTeblzM2IJJPIxOhqk+gHlqGdUze0r4FM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=sUXZsueEaoHVl7tJhaD4pIxVQD7Ai6vKmWo22K6RLXh4JNRln2qLpWKOLRO2mnzRRV9s87BHcVSKI6UBoY8pVQzOTlZd/EZNCTlJS16sFHu/hKDl4IV81qCAm+oEGxA3PjUAnfFM/p/cCVcH1RQcTzy/gEQsWUvCBEECgMHYj38= Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr5302097buc.10.1197555479498; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [83.177.246.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z34sm2994372ikz.2007.12.13.06.17.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:17:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47613EEE.5090305@richgray.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:17:18 +0100 Reply-To: rich@richgray.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals Mailing List References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613538.1060308@wikimedia.org> <1197553571.27917.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1197553571.27917.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only From: rich06@gmail.com (rich gray) If this suggestion from Jani is supported then all I can say is WTF a bunch of prima donnas you internals/core devs are ... You don't want to listen to your users who are in most cases NOT technically ignorant and are in the trenches using your product and trying to make a living? AFAIK no-one has forced you to develop the PHP codebase - kitchen/heat are two words that come to mind. BTW the 'delete' option on your email client is usually quite easy to use if you feel too much feedback/suggestions from your users is upsetting your fragile nirvana. PHP will go down the pan if you take that attitude .. remember it is OPEN source rant over rich