Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33996 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69904 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 13:58:42 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69888 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 13:58:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 13:58:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 63.208.196.178 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.208.196.178 mho-01-bos.mailhop.org Received: from [63.208.196.178] ([63.208.196.178:49199] helo=mho-01-bos.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3F/C6-10047-19A31674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:58:41 -0500 Received: from [81.22.163.71] (helo=[10.6.109.159]) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2oaF-0009s1-7p; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:58:39 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.22.163.71 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+RDrT2EHdUv4aVsi3EQ6UNKVtOSMUmij4= Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi To: Marco Tabini Cc: internals Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:58:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1197554317.27917.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only (was: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace improvements to be committed very soon - final review) From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 08:55 -0500, Marco Tabini wrote: > I am just a lurker, so take this with the due grain of salt, but > simply making internals@ read-only is just going to drive people to > contact the core team members directly (thus likely *increasing* your > blood pressure :-)). I think you need to provide people with some way > of interacting without unleashing chaos on the development process; > php-general, IMHO, is not the place for that kind of discussion, > because people there are mostly looking for assistance with the use of > PHP, rather than attempting to influence the development process. IMNSHO contacting core members directly is the only way to really make them interested AND to actually notice the idea. At least with the list being what it's like right now. :) --Jani