Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33993 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64643 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2007 13:46:17 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64627 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 13:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 13:46:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 63.208.196.178 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.208.196.178 mho-01-bos.mailhop.org Received: from [63.208.196.178] ([63.208.196.178:56719] helo=mho-01-bos.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DB/C5-10047-8A731674 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:46:16 -0500 Received: from [81.22.163.71] (helo=[10.6.109.159]) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2oOD-0007SC-D4; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:46:13 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.22.163.71 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19UFcqoi9exGys9TgDT7qNriTxyVqYTWS0= Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi To: Tim Starling Cc: internals Mailing List In-Reply-To: <47613538.1060308@wikimedia.org> References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4760227D.9050404@zend.com> <1197551283.27917.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47613538.1060308@wikimedia.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:46:11 +0200 Message-ID: <1197553571.27917.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 00:35 +1100, Tim Starling wrote: > Jani Taskinen wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 10:00 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > >> To to get back to the point of the noise on the lists - it's getting out > >> of hand, and I am afraid that if we don't solve this any time soon, the > >> lists will be useless for any sort of decent discussion and promoting > >> even more secret cults. > >> > > > > There's already public list, it's called "php-general". So just > > unsubscribe all people from this list and subscribe all @php.net addies > > only. > > > If you unsubscribe everyone, we won't be able to read it. I only > subscribed to this list after I got frustrated with the NNTP server > constantly giving connection refused errors. Being subscribed is > apparently the only convenient way to read the list regularly. Use this: http://news.php.net/php.internals And no, it doesn't need to be convenient as long as it's public. :) -- Patches/Donations: http://pecl.php.net/~jani/