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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace improvements to be committed very soon -final
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From: kristo@struktuur.ee (Kristo Iila)

hello!

Jani Taskinen wrote:
> Nice to hear some work is done but I get very annoyed every time I see
> the words "behind the scenes" (or something alike). I guess it was
> because it's impossible to discuss anything on internals without the
> noise coming from "outside"..? Could we finally make this list read-only
> for every one but the @php.net people? I get enough spam already, spam
> from this list is not something everyone should suffer from.

I don't have a php.net mail address, but I would like to say, that 
please do make this list read only. Why? well, because I do make a 
living using php and thus I like to be up to date with things that are 
going on with its development, which is why I read the internals list.

But what I don't want to have to wade through, is opinions from people 
who don't know what they're talking about or maybe they do, but will 
never really do anything about it other than writing messages to the 
newsgroup. In my mind, opinions from people, who are not ready to follow 
them up with actions are much less important than those from the people 
that do.

Honestly, I just find it so hard to understand, how come people who have 
never done anything to improve php seem to think that their opinions 
have any weight in choosing the direction the language should take. I 
certainly would not expect anyone to care what I think about namespaces 
or late binding or whatever topic, unless I can back it up with patches.

Also, you might want to let messages through, that have patches attached 
to them, so newcomers still can get those in.

Oh, and thanks for all the hard work in making a great programming 
language that I love to use every day.

Kristo Iila