Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33977 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16863 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Dec 2007 16:43:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16848 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 16:43:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 16:43:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=greg@chiaraquartet.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=greg@chiaraquartet.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain chiaraquartet.net from 38.99.98.18 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: greg@chiaraquartet.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 38.99.98.18 beast.bluga.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [38.99.98.18] ([38.99.98.18:38431] helo=mail.bluga.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/F9-53174-4CF00674 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:43:48 -0500 Received: from mail.bluga.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872AC10227; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:43:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.106] (CPE-76-84-15-179.neb.res.rr.com [76.84.15.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ACAC10225; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:43:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <47600FC3.1070706@chiaraquartet.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:43:47 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi CC: internals Mailing List References: <475F1984.603@chiaraquartet.net> <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1197450581.27917.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace improvements to be committed very soon -final review From: greg@chiaraquartet.net (Gregory Beaver) Jani Taskinen wrote: > Nice to hear some work is done but I get very annoyed every time I see > the words "behind the scenes" (or something alike). I guess it was > because it's impossible to discuss anything on internals without the > noise coming from "outside"..? Could we finally make this list read-only > for every one but the @php.net people? I get enough spam already, spam > from this list is not something everyone should suffer from. All I meant by "behind the scenes" was quite a bit of time using IM, revising the patch and emailing back and forth to resolve obvious problems before making a public proposal. Surely we don't need public feedback on half-baked ideas? Incidentally, the multiple namespaces patch has been around for months, first posted on the list, and the idea of use ::name and the problem of not having it has been noted multiple times on the list. Greg