Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33874
Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm
Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sambarrow.com from 205.234.132.11 cause and error)
To: RQuadling@GoogleMail.com
Cc: Lokrain <lokrain@gmail.com>, internals@lists.php.net
In-Reply-To: <10845a340712081212v7cbd1b6am4020eb3f49544f14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.0.98.0712042315260.20300@kossu.ez.no>
	 <475713B2.4030802@iamjochem.com> <475719ED.8050306@zend.com>
	 <200712052110.37023.larry@garfieldtech.com>
	 <47576AEF.4030306@omegavortex.net>
	 <5474E017-DF97-4B91-8FE0-7D6831E64F56@bitxtender.com>
	 <4EE0727E-ABBA-490D-B247-8C6E9A9727BA@gmx.net>
	 <E3.A1.00959.7AF49574@pb1.pair.com>
	 <345fd5cd0712070815k55eac42fh14d5685039c03113@mail.gmail.com>
	 <345fd5cd0712070816m2c0d4a22hd03f91abff2405ae@mail.gmail.com>
	 <10845a340712081212v7cbd1b6am4020eb3f49544f14@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:23:24 -0500
Message-ID: <1197149004.9893.2.camel@sams-room>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespace
From: sam@sambarrow.com (Sam Barrow)

Once you say "namespace xyz ;" everything in the file is now relative to
namespace xyz. To refer to the global namespace, you use the following

<?php

namespace xyz ;

function substr() {
	return true ;
}

substr(); // calls substr in current namespace
::substr(); // calls substr in global namespace

?>

On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 20:12 +0000, Richard Quadling wrote:
> On 07/12/2007, Lokrain <lokrain@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I just wanted to drop an opp. Just to see the logic, when we have
> > programming structure class, interface, function, if statement, switch
> > statement etc, we have bracers encapsulation. This is the logic that most
> > programming language give to show a programmer that something is inside
> > something. We here have namespace with the same idea, and no bracers.
> >
> > Conclusion: namespaces are not logical => no thanks
> >
> > PS. By the way, I do not think that any workarounds on that logic will not
> > be nice.
> >
> 
> I'm trying to understand the argument against using braces.
> 
> And that has led me to the following question.
> 
> Assuming no braces, how would I put code OUTSIDE of the namespace in a
> single file.
> 
> <?php
> namespace XYZ;
> 
> xyz related code goes here
> 
> non xyz related code goes here but how do I let PHP know it isn't part of xyz?
> 
> 
> 
> Do I have to change namespace by using a dummy namespace? Same issue
> how do I refer to the global namespace.
> 
> 
> Richard.
> 
> -- 
> -----
> Richard Quadling
> Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>