Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33810 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87733 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Dec 2007 18:28:09 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87718 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2007 18:28:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2007 18:28:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=r.borschel@gmx.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=r.borschel@gmx.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.net designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: r.borschel@gmx.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.165.64.20 mail.gmx.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [213.165.64.20] ([213.165.64.20:52786] helo=mail.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/A3-15167-63F38574 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:28:08 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Dec 2007 18:28:02 -0000 Received: from e178108243.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.0.2]) [85.178.108.243] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 06 Dec 2007 19:28:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #13379417 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1872gpoOY47wt47bKh0X3vaKyYxSN3nX6s/4y+7dO rlm+F/Xy6QFhtO Message-ID: <4F19E93C-A0A7-4CEB-BA50-FC483AA3FE82@gmx.net> To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <47583ABB.5050306@swplumb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:28:01 +0100 References: <475713B2.4030802@iamjochem.com> <475719ED.8050306@zend.com> <200712052110.37023.larry@garfieldtech.com> <47576AEF.4030306@omegavortex.net> <5474E017-DF97-4B91-8FE0-7D6831E64F56@bitxtender.com> <47582DC0.2040004@zend.com> <16F02B8A-6394-4175-9473-C4967606386C@bitxtender.com> <4758362B.8070504@swplumb.com> <47583783.4010904@zend.com> <47583ABB.5050306@swplumb.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespace From: r.borschel@gmx.net (Roman Borschel) On Dec 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Michael McGlothlin wrote: > PHP already has the bad habit for many programmers to write totally > unreadable code. It's darn near as bad as Perl in that area. No > reason to make it worse. And you really think not allowing multiple namespaces in a file will improve that? I don't think so. These people will continue to write unreadable code, no matter how many restrictions you put into the language itself to prevent that. And as a negative side-effect the others lose more and more flexibility of the language. Apart from that multiple namespaces in a file always result in less readable code. I don't see how it would be that much better with braces. Roman