Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33781 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13495 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Dec 2007 22:01:42 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13480 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 22:01:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 22:01:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jeremy@omegavortex.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jeremy@omegavortex.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain omegavortex.net from 207.210.105.50 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jeremy@omegavortex.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.210.105.50 analucia.asmallorange.com Received: from [207.210.105.50] ([207.210.105.50:56111] helo=analucia.asmallorange.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9A/C4-12052-0CF17574 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:01:38 -0500 Received: from [24.8.172.240] (port=3728 helo=[192.168.15.107]) by analucia.asmallorange.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J02J8-0004lo-Mt; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: <47571FB3.3060103@omegavortex.net> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:01:23 -0700 Organization: Omega Vortex Corporation User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev CC: Jochem Maas , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <4755FB31.2050901@zend.com> <4756E3AF.2070703@zend.com> <4756EC80.1070500@iamjochem.com> <4756F146.3050306@zend.com> <4756F740.3060800@iamjochem.com> <4757060A.8040008@zend.com> <475713B2.4030802@iamjochem.com> <475719ED.8050306@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <475719ED.8050306@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - analucia.asmallorange.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - omegavortex.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespace From: jeremy@omegavortex.net (Jeremy Privett) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> implementation [details] not the concept. I believe that the >> implementation >> needs a little ironing out ... what's the harm in taking the time to >> do this? >> or at least taking the time to let consensus take hold? > > No harm, but we will have multiple namespaces per file figured out > pretty soon, and I don't see any new developments with the braces > thing, so what exactly would we wait for? > >> metrics that support your argument that namespaces will make code more >> maintainable, offer better structure and cleaner code. > > Obviously, we can't have any metrics of anything until the namespaces > are implemented and used in some serious project, which can't happen > until we have a release with namespaces in it. > > > it remains nothing more than a pontential even after release. in > the same > > For some time, yes. And if one chooses not to use it, maybe forever > for that particular user. > I'm all for discussing practical ones, but frankly I don't see any new > issues here worth delaying anything. Hey Stas, I just felt the need to send a note in to say thank you for working to keep the namespaces implementation in. I've been developing toward PHP 5.3 and would be sorely disappointed if I had to re-write all of my libraries to remove the use of namespaces. So, thanks.