Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33780 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10635 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Dec 2007 21:49:47 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10620 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 21:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 21:49:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sam@sambarrow.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sam@sambarrow.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sambarrow.com from 205.234.132.11 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sam@sambarrow.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 205.234.132.11 scottsdale.servershost.net Received: from [205.234.132.11] ([205.234.132.11:37402] helo=scottsdale.servershost.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 01/64-12052-AFC17574 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:49:46 -0500 Received: from [65.207.49.92] (port=43066) by scottsdale.servershost.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J027i-0000gU-4y; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:49:42 -0600 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Jochem Maas , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List In-Reply-To: <475719ED.8050306@zend.com> References: <4755FB31.2050901@zend.com> <4756E3AF.2070703@zend.com> <4756EC80.1070500@iamjochem.com> <4756F146.3050306@zend.com> <4756F740.3060800@iamjochem.com> <4757060A.8040008@zend.com> <475713B2.4030802@iamjochem.com> <475719ED.8050306@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:49:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1196891376.20831.12.camel@sbarrow-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - scottsdale.servershost.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sambarrow.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespace From: sam@sambarrow.com (Sam Barrow) The implementation as it is now works. It's functional, and useful. Minor issues like import/use can be worked out when necessary, but for now I see this as something that can be released (provided that most of the bugs are worked out). Multiple namespaces per file is the only thing I see as a feature that should be added, but as of now it is not a pressing issue. On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 13:36 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > implementation [details] not the concept. I believe that the implementation > > needs a little ironing out ... what's the harm in taking the time to do this? > > or at least taking the time to let consensus take hold? > > No harm, but we will have multiple namespaces per file figured out > pretty soon, and I don't see any new developments with the braces thing, > so what exactly would we wait for? > > > metrics that support your argument that namespaces will make code more > > maintainable, offer better structure and cleaner code. > > Obviously, we can't have any metrics of anything until the namespaces > are implemented and used in some serious project, which can't happen > until we have a release with namespaces in it. > > > it remains nothing more than a pontential even after release. in the > same > > For some time, yes. And if one chooses not to use it, maybe forever for > that particular user. > I'm all for discussing practical ones, but frankly I don't see any new > issues here worth delaying anything. > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect > stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ > (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com >