Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33696 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54998 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Dec 2007 22:39:33 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54983 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 22:39:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 22:39:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianm@dealnews.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianm@dealnews.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain dealnews.com designates 129.41.69.137 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianm@dealnews.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 129.41.69.137 mail.dealnews.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [129.41.69.137] ([129.41.69.137:43673] helo=mail.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/70-47601-427D5574 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:39:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 26966 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 22:39:30 -0000 Received: from h125.23.91.75.ip.alltel.net (HELO macdough.local) (brianm@[75.91.23.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.dealnews.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2007 22:39:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4755D720.4040003@dealnews.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:39:28 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Dropping Namespace From: brianm@dealnews.com (Brian Moon) > With all the above considerations, especially my first point, I still have not > heard any good reason why namespaces in the current implementation are actually > useful - or what particular case they solve... so I am wondering, are they > really useful? I come now to the conclusion that they are not, and for myself > (and most likely my work projects) I would have to decide not to go with > namespaces, but instead stick with the 3 letter prefixing. Something that I > have totally no problem with, as it is nice and easy. I hate to, but I agree. If the only point is to make class naming pretty, it is kind of pointless. Give me namespaces that scope variables to a file and then we have something. Yeah, I still code the way PHP intended you to code, by templateing files together and not making gynormous classes to print out some simple HTML over and over. It would only be useful in that my company's code would not conflict with some 3rd party software we use. -- Brian Moon Senior Developer ------------------------------ http://dealnews.com/ It's good to be cheap =)