Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33690 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96416 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Dec 2007 20:18:44 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96401 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 20:18:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 20:18:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 mail.lerdorf.com Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:34870] helo=mail.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7A/08-47601-326B5574 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:18:44 -0500 Received: from surfer-30-1-231.surfnet.iacbox ([78.154.98.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.lerdorf.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id lB4KIYB3014631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:18:36 -0800 Message-ID: <4755B61A.2000803@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:18:34 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev CC: scott.mcnaught@synergy8.com, "'Antony Dovgal'" , "'Andi Gutmans'" , "'Cristian Rodriguez'" , internals@lists.php.net References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEF88FDD@us-ex1.zend.net> <7d5a202f0712031900i386f8964s675da26cc93af3fe@mail.gmail.com> <47550FAB.30002@daylessday.org> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEF890ED@us-ex1.zend.net> <475578BE.40908@daylessday.org> <4755A797.1020905@lerdorf.com> <009001c836ae$4ba0add0$e2e20970$@mcnaught@synergy8.com> <4755B310.9070603@lerdorf.com> <4755B55A.1030708@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <4755B55A.1030708@zend.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4995/Tue Dec 4 10:38:38 2007 on colo.lerdorf.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Garbage collector patch From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> 1. Always compile it in but leave undocumented #ifdefs in place for >> performance freaks. Those same performance freaks aren't going to care >> about the binary compatibility issue since they are the same people who >> build all their own stuff. > > Note that breaking BC is not only about performance - one your build is > not the same as mainstream PHP, you can't use any binary extension which > would do anything non-performance-related - like interfacing some > external system/library, debugging, profiling, testing, security and so on. > Any commercial module won't be available for the user of this switch, > and all open-source modules one'd have to build by oneself, which may be > serious maintenance issue. I know there are a bunch of companies that > compile PHP with their own options but still use commercial modules, > including both performance and non-performance ones. They couldn't use > this compile switch. Yes, I know what binary compatibility means. -Rasmus