Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33222 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12105 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Nov 2007 20:50:35 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12090 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 20:50:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 20:50:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianm@dealnews.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianm@dealnews.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain dealnews.com designates 129.41.69.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianm@dealnews.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 129.41.69.185 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [129.41.69.185] ([129.41.69.185:51871] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8F/73-12339-9145F374 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:50:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 11102 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 20:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dealnews.com) (10.1.1.7) by -H with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 17 Nov 2007 20:40:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 13626 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 20:40:50 -0000 Received: from h125.23.91.75.ip.alltel.net (HELO macdough.local) (brianm@[75.91.23.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.dealnews.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Nov 2007 20:40:50 -0000 Message-ID: <473F51D1.1020602@dealnews.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:49 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karoly Negyesi CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <7e270cea0711170603o69936b40gfd8e0d386513c654@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7e270cea0711170603o69936b40gfd8e0d386513c654@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bring back call-time pass-by-reference From: brianm@dealnews.com (Brian Moon) Karoly Negyesi wrote: > Hi, > > Although this should be an old hat, I am surprised PHP5 has not fixed > it, let's fix it in PHP6. There are things you can't without call time > pass-by-reference, most of all variables arguments with references. > So, please de-deprecate it. I am feeling froggy. I will bite. What can't you do? I can think of several really bad things that can happen. It can't be OOP cause objects are already always passed by reference. -- Brian Moon Senior Developer ------------------------------ http://dealnews.com/ It's good to be cheap =)