Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:33166 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7538 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Nov 2007 23:23:02 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7523 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 23:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 23:23:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.141 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.141 smtpout0141.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.141] ([64.97.136.141:46103] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 65/37-06919-6D4DC374 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:23:02 -0500 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D00359920; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:22:53 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,c463330128d1c76a,2cf0441d8e91481b,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1676:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2902:3027:3351:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6119:6261:7653:7688,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (80-195-223-230.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [80.195.223.230]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <00fc01c827de$87885160$e6dfc350@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: , "Mario Brandt" Cc: "Rob Richards" , "Elizabeth Smith" , References: <3B058FC38F54184DB97A62574F17828302E47AC8@magdeburg2.nasa30.com> <10845a340711150610h2b8990aep70d6b03299af182f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:23:26 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Providing Visual Studio 2005 builds (again) From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Richard, hi... > I suppose, no matter how many times the message "This version of PHP > requires this pack of files from Microsoft" with a link to the files > you are still going to get users complaining that their PHP doesn't > work. This is exactly why we just had this whole discussion. Making sure the new-to-us runtime is clearly marked 'beta' in some way, eg by making it available only via QA and putting CRT info (and what to do about it) on that page, will go a long long way to prevent those bogus bug reports flooding in. - Steph