Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32969 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80499 invoked by uid 1010); 24 Oct 2007 17:55:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80482 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 17:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Oct 2007 17:55:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian@nohn.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian@nohn.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain nohn.net designates 85.214.77.40 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian@nohn.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.77.40 bxpcsr02.nohn.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [85.214.77.40] ([85.214.77.40:50391] helo=bxpcsr02.nohn.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3C/83-47805-1F68F174 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:54:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bxpcsr02.nohn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49659938003; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:54:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bxpcsr02.nohn.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h939937.serverkompetenz.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06712-10; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:54:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.161.137.235] (gprs-pool-1-012.eplus-online.de [212.23.126.12]) by bxpcsr02.nohn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FD0938001; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:54:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <471F86E0.4020308@nohn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:54:40 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: Gregory Beaver , Giedrius D , Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Internals References: <471D1600.2030603@zend.com> <471D2FDC.8010505@chiaraquartet.net> <471D394F.50007@zend.com> <471D6DDC.4050705@chiaraquartet.net> <3d1a63d10710230208i35424b14u3fb454b5b7fd4eca@mail.gmail.com> <471DFF3F.2040609@chiaraquartet.net> <3d1a63d10710231042r6a1c9067t119ad6572fa22273@mail.gmail.com> <471E43DE.9030706@chiaraquartet.net> <471EE226.6070908@nohn.net> <1767718715.20071024174842@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1767718715.20071024174842@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: import/use last call From: sebastian@nohn.net (Sebastian Nohn) Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello Sebastian, > > erm you are not going to use the stuff then? Of course. I was just trying to explain, what the plain words sound like to me. > marcus > > Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 8:11:50 AM, you wrote: > >> Gregory Beaver wrote: >>> Giedrius D wrote: >>>> On 10/23/07, Gregory Beaver wrote: > >>>> Anyway my main question was: is there any reason not to use keyword "use"? > >>> The only reason for me is that "use" implies some kind of autoloading, >>> as I suggested in one of my other mails. This gets into parsing >>> semantics, something I'm not interested in doing. If the folks go with >>> "use" that is fine, but for me personally not the best solution, which >>> is why I put hours into making this patch. > >> If I directly compare "use" with "import", "import" sounds way more like >> "get me that stuff somehow magically" than "use" does. - Sebastian