Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32824 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36665 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Oct 2007 07:13:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36648 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2007 07:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2007 07:13:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:58308] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/06-14332-406B5174 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:13:11 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:13:06 +0200 Received: from [192.168.17.28] ([192.168.17.28]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:13:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4715B5FF.6000100@zend.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:13:03 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sean finney CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <64ED731E-CA44-498E-9AF9-C9B00037B863@omniti.com> <200710151910.49707.seanius@seanius.net> <47155266.4010209@zend.com> <200710170848.23053.seanius@seanius.net> In-Reply-To: <200710170848.23053.seanius@seanius.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2007 07:13:01.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[27812F70:01C8108D] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Large file support for PHP From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > but this wouldn't be any different from any other api/abi bump. furthermore, Of course. If there are two different PHP versions with different API numbers, it's OK. What's less OK is when there's two PHP builds with same API numbers which are binary incompatible. > in the context of running debian (and by extension ubuntu) servers, you > wouldn't need to do anything if you were only using the pre-packaged modules, You mean - pre-packaged by Debian? > need to do an "apt-get upgrade", etc. and if you were using other pecl > extensions, i think the command to update that isn't so complicated either :) Compatibility is not complicated if you deal with one machine where you control everything and can rebuild everything from source. It starts to get worse when you have a lot of machines on which you want to achieve some kind of common environment. Having indistinguishable binary incompatible PHP versions complicates things. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com