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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP
 community
From: wmoran@potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)

Antony Dovgal <tony@daylessday.org> wrote:
>
> On 15.10.2007 23:16, Bill Moran wrote:
> > But you're confirming something I theorized ... there _is_ something wrong
> > with the PHP community.  If contributors like yourself have become so
> > frustrated with the users that they don't want to be involved, there is
> > a REAL problem.
> 
> You misunderstood what I said. 
> I'm still involved and I'm not going to leave the development.

Fair enough.

> But I do not respond to the reports that are not directly related to the extensions 
> I maintain.

Well, I still consider this a problem.  While your clarification is
necessary, I don't feel it alters my statement.

> And one of the reasons is users like you.

I've been mulling over how to respond to this statement for a while.

Please, for my own edification, describe who you think I am.  I'm
absolutely certain you're mistaken, please read below.

> > I expect that this sort of frustration on the part of developers leads to
> > exacerbated frustration on the part of the users, which leads to more
> > frustration on the part of developers ... and so on and so on in an
> > endless loop.
> 
> So you decided to help us with that and wrote a nice blog post telling how 
> evil PHP developers made you to wait for two weeks, right?
> 
> > So, I'm not sure I have any suggestions.  Looks like PHP is a tough project
> > to be a part of.
> 
> Well, I do have one. Please do something more useful. Thanks.

I'm unsure where all your hatred stems from.  I'm trying to help get a
bug in PHP fixed and I'm having difficulty with it.  As a result, I'm
not trying to address the difficulty directly.

I can only assume that you're having a rough day, or that you've dealt
with so many jerks lately that your frame of mind is that everyone who
criticizes is a jerk.  There is, however, such a thing as constructive
criticism, and that is what I am trying to do.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com