Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32793 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24690 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Oct 2007 20:02:52 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24652 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 20:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Oct 2007 20:02:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tony@daylessday.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tony@daylessday.org; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain daylessday.org designates 89.208.40.236 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tony@daylessday.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 89.208.40.236 mail.daylessday.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [89.208.40.236] ([89.208.40.236:34048] helo=daylessday.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 50/B7-39149-9E1C3174 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:39:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.34] (ppp85-140-122-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.140.122.156]) by daylessday.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175E0640163; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:39:19 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4713C1E6.5060505@daylessday.org> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:39:18 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <20071015140534.e44b8be8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4713B5D3.9000207@daylessday.org> <20071015151617.0706a365.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20071015151617.0706a365.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community From: tony@daylessday.org (Antony Dovgal) On 15.10.2007 23:16, Bill Moran wrote: > But you're confirming something I theorized ... there _is_ something wrong > with the PHP community. If contributors like yourself have become so > frustrated with the users that they don't want to be involved, there is > a REAL problem. You misunderstood what I said. I'm still involved and I'm not going to leave the development. But I do not respond to the reports that are not directly related to the extensions I maintain. And one of the reasons is users like you. > I expect that this sort of frustration on the part of developers leads to > exacerbated frustration on the part of the users, which leads to more > frustration on the part of developers ... and so on and so on in an > endless loop. So you decided to help us with that and wrote a nice blog post telling how evil PHP developers made you to wait for two weeks, right? > So, I'm not sure I have any suggestions. Looks like PHP is a tough project > to be a part of. Well, I do have one. Please do something more useful. Thanks. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal