Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32789 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2698 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Oct 2007 18:48:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2678 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 18:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Oct 2007 18:48:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tony@daylessday.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tony@daylessday.org; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain daylessday.org designates 89.208.40.236 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tony@daylessday.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 89.208.40.236 mail.daylessday.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [89.208.40.236] ([89.208.40.236:38370] helo=daylessday.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/A4-39149-3E5B3174 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:48:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.34] (ppp85-140-122-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.140.122.156]) by daylessday.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62731640163; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:47:50 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4713B5D3.9000207@daylessday.org> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:47:47 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <20071015140534.e44b8be8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20071015140534.e44b8be8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community From: tony@daylessday.org (Antony Dovgal) On 15.10.2007 22:05, Bill Moran wrote: > http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 > > Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel > like it needed to be said. I don't know about Dmitry, but I can explain why I stopped looking through the bug reports lately. So here is my reasoning: I can spend several hours a day fixing bugs and helping other people to fix their problems, explaining their mistakes, and what do I get for that? "Thank you"? I can't recall when I heard it last time. The only thing I get is personal insults for closing someone's report as bogus. And I also have to prove that it is bogus and close it several times explaining why it is so and why I'm not an asshole. Also some people tend to think that their bug reports have to be reviewed now (I mean NOW!!!), as they probably do not realize that developers may have vacation, they can be busy with their real job, there might be other bugs with much higher priority, or (god forbid!) they can be speaking on some conference. These people also do not realize that most of the extensions are maintained by certain people and other developers are either not interested in fixing them, or are not familiar with the code, or just do now want to touch other people's code without discussing this change with the author (which is another unwritten rule, btw). After all, this kind of job became too frustrating to me and I've decided to take a rest (at least for a while). Thank you for confirming that my decision was right. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal