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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:18:53 -0400
To: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community
From: parasane@gmail.com ("Daniel Brown")

On 10/15/07, Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48
>
> Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel
> like it needed to be said.
>
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    Bill,

    Since your blog post didn't allow comments, I'm submitting the
original message thread in question right here:

> On Thu, May 3, 2007 6:59 am, Crayon wrote:
>> On Thursday 03 May 2007 03:18, Richard Lynch wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2007 1:14 pm, Bill Moran wrote:
>>> > http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39062
>>
>>> This discussion may be better placed on "Internals" where the people
>>> who make these decisions hang out more...
>>
>> Maybe Bill wanted us lowly users to know that the all powerful
>> developers
>> aren't listening to their users.
>
> :-)

> Some of them are definitely listening here.

> And all of them are trying to juggle needs/demands/desires of an
> enormous community with more variety than, errr, dog species?

> Lord knows I'm not real happy with some of the decisions/directions,
> but you know what?  Anybody *really* unhappy that cares enough can get
> off their butt and start submitting patches, and push things a
> different direction.  Self included, mind you. :-)

    It seems to me that Lynch was actually just saying, "you seem as
though you have the technical know-how, so jump in feet-first and
let's get going!"  It wasn't "ripping [you] a new one", as you
suggested in your post, unless your "old one" was that defective in
the first place and was inadvertently replaced by the "new one".  ;-P

    Before you make a public post demeaning the community that drives
the project you are using, no doubt, to help put food on your table,
why not take a moment to read this fantastic Wikipedia article:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

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allergic and is hospitalized.  See?  No good deed goes unpunished....