Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32706 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26924 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Oct 2007 02:26:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26904 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2007 02:26:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2007 02:26:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andrei@gravitonic.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andrei@gravitonic.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain gravitonic.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andrei@gravitonic.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 mail.lerdorf.com Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:42811] helo=mail.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 51/8E-22438-AB6EA074 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:26:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.11.21] (c-71-202-45-81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.202.45.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.lerdorf.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-10) with ESMTP id l992Pl35018631; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:25:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <285930281.20071006200938@marcus-boerger.de> References: <52dbac0f0710011236u626c9566l6ab474dce0b3132e@mail.gmail.com> <200710042005.30734.larry@garfieldtech.com> <285930281.20071006200938@marcus-boerger.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <9310D450-246A-4BD5-A8A8-67C7ADF8447B@gravitonic.com> Cc: Larry Garfield , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:25:50 -0700 To: Marcus Boerger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4510/Mon Oct 8 18:08:43 2007 on colo.lerdorf.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] substr/array_slice in [] From: andrei@gravitonic.com (Andrei Zmievski) So what? Just because other languages implemented a good idea first does not mean that it is verboten to us. PHP is result of years of evolution (and yes, Terry, it's also a ball of nails) and stealing ideas is one way to inject fresh genes into it. -Andrei On Oct 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > However I agree that this kind of slicing is a bit too perlish or > pythonish.