Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32681 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73830 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Oct 2007 18:49:01 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73815 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2007 18:49:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Oct 2007 18:49:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tony@daylessday.org; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tony@daylessday.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain daylessday.org designates 89.208.40.236 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tony@daylessday.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 89.208.40.236 mail.daylessday.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [89.208.40.236] ([89.208.40.236:53373] helo=daylessday.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DA/4D-26050-B98D7074 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:49:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.33] (ppp85-140-254-73.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.140.254.73]) by daylessday.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64147640185; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:48:56 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4707D8AA.9060905@daylessday.org> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:49:14 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Garfield CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <200710042005.30734.larry@garfieldtech.com> <285930281.20071006200938@marcus-boerger.de> <200710061338.47307.larry@garfieldtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200710061338.47307.larry@garfieldtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] substr/array_slice in [] From: tony@daylessday.org (Antony Dovgal) On 06.10.2007 22:38, Larry Garfield wrote: > I have no love for Perl (and a rather strong dislike of it), but I have to > agree with those who say that "looks like Perl" is a lame reason to reject > something. PHP's object system looks an awful lot like Java, too. That > doesn't make it bad. > > "Too unreadable", "not approachable enough", "too inflexible", etc. are > perfectly valid reasons to reject a syntax. "Looks like here>" is not, I content, one of them. I believe it should be pretty clear that "too perlish" means "too cryptic and makes no sense because it duplicates already implemented functionality (more than one way to do it, yeah)". But "too perlish" is much shorter. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal