Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32477 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82358 invoked by uid 1010); 27 Sep 2007 18:44:01 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82343 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2007 18:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 2007 18:44:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 85.10.196.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.196.195 serveforce1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.10.196.195] ([85.10.196.195:42265] helo=serveforce1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/F7-31655-FE9FBF64 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:44:00 -0400 Received: from soitgoes.local (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by serveforce1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473D11224604; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:44:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46FBF972.2080407@pooteeweet.org> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:41:54 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Gutmans CC: Ilia Alshanetsky , Steph Fox , jani.taskinen@iki.fi, Stas Malyshev , PHP Developers Mailing List , Pierre References: <725ADA22-20E9-467E-BEA7-9B59D93D33E6@prohost.org> <46FAF763.8090406@zend.com> <1190879439.3312.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46FB9702.1000206@pooteeweet.org> <00ad01c80120$ddc11920$e6dfc350@foxbox> <45F9799F-1319-48C5-A0D9-97F1C50EC0D2@prohost.org> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEB94CA0@us-ex1.zend.net> In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEB94CA0@us-ex1.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.155, required 6, AWL 0.06, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-From: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP_5_3 Branched From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Andi Gutmans wrote: > +1 and I think it's a good way for someone to get into the role. I do not see why we need this delayed hand over. RMs managed to take over during the process in the past and today we even have a check list for this purpose. The main challenge is managing the politics on this list and we all know how this works. Of course there are also technical issues to take care of (like monitoring the commits so that nothing ends up in the release that was not intended). If the process itself needs further clarification we should improve the documentation. Of course previous RMs are also around for a new RM to answer questions. But I think its a good tradition to switch RMs to ensure that the experienced remains shared and that we do not end up with a lot of single person specific implicit processes. Anyways, I am here to help any RM that is put into the position (I lack the technical expertise to handle this stuff, so I should better stick with the secretary job) and I am sure Ilia will continue to do a good job. I also believe that Johannes will do a good job (of course he will need the support of previous RMs) if he takes the job. regards, Lukas