Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32335 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38915 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Sep 2007 15:31:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38900 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2007 15:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2007 15:31:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org from 64.233.166.179 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.166.179 py-out-1112.google.com Received: from [64.233.166.179] ([64.233.166.179:58789] helo=py-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1E/A2-19234-15C4DE64 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:31:29 -0400 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so4655429pye for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.119.14 with SMTP id w14mr8254933qbm.1189956686617; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? ( [99.246.70.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm1973496qbh.2007.09.16.08.31.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:31:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46ED4585.3070608@pooteeweet.org> References: <1F69D3A2-0020-4B78-8B78-F4EE483ECC5D@prohost.org> <46EC6830.5060603@zend.com> <46ED4585.3070608@pooteeweet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:31:18 -0400 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3 Suggested Feature List (Summary) From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 16-Sep-07, at 11:02 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> On 15-Sep-07, at 7:18 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> NP ;-) Btw the detailed breakdown of the votes is available here >> http://bb.prohost.org/53Features.pdf > > I have taken the data from this PDF and slightly reworked things > [1] so that its easy to see which topics got more attention with > votes than others. I think its critical to understand that several > items were hard for the general community to vote on because of > lack of expertise (as noted in several votes). As such I find it > questionable to apply a +10 threshold on all items. > > Furthermore I ask everybody to review if his vote was interpreted > as they wanted in Ilia's PDF. Some people made their votes > conditional, which is not supported by the formats chosen for > tallying up the votes. Lukas has a good point about the "0" votes, however if there are niche features most people don't really care/know about that in itself means that there is not much support for said functionality. IMHO the point of the vote was to identify KEY features general community (developers & users) would like to see in 5.3, not to introduce feature creep, which re-enumeration of the vote does to some extent, please keep that mind when reviewing the #s. Additionally, remember that 5.3 is a "minor" release and is not the most appropriate platform for "anything & everything" inclusion. Ilia Alshanetsky