Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32182 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4696 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Sep 2007 12:52:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4681 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2007 12:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Sep 2007 12:52:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 85.214.94.56 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:39235] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1D/10-01533-D1E35E64 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:52:47 -0400 Received: from dhcp-172-28-204-149.zrh.corp.google.com (unknown [193.142.125.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF9C1B34CB; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:52:43 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36596249.20070910145243@marcus-boerger.de> To: "Cristian Rodriguez" , Andi Gutmans , David Wang CC: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <7d5a202f0709072354n2009fe34lceacceebd0cc879a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070904162613.4qgfdddo7scw8o8w@w13.mail.sapo.pt> <849426349.20070904210047@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEA2A93C@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEA2AA9A@us-ex1.zend.net> <7d5a202f0709072354n2009fe34lceacceebd0cc879a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Andi, Cristian, David, agreeed. We should put this into 5.3 where we'll break BC anyway. Then for 5.3 and HEAD people will have enough time to adapt (given current release plans. The only thing left to think of is whether it makes sense to use '__' prefix for internal stuff just like we do for php? And please no more magic switches that lead to broken code. In fact hasn't it always been Zend Engine development police to rather break to see the issues then trying to avoid them? marcus Saturday, September 8, 2007, 8:54:07 AM, you wrote: > On 9/7/07, Andi Gutmans wrote: >>Let's not run before we walk. > The GC already "walks." >>There's still testing and review and some stabilizing period we > should be doing > if it is disabled by default it is unlikely that people will test it > with real life code even more with in you place a #if ZEND_GC around > the functionality... > -- > http://www.kissofjudas.net/ Best regards, Marcus