Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32150 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8192 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Sep 2007 02:08:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8177 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2007 02:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Sep 2007 02:08:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.188 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: judas.iscariote@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.188 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.188] ([209.85.198.188:60365] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2D/22-17175-D27A4E64 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:08:46 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so947906rvb for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Z6sZqi2WLeJXpUYsjZY0kGPfOvnOXMpK4t6reE7dv+Q=; b=KoGS4krEYFlMOoThF0h9LOZ9q6D+NvHRfJ/2gw5XV7eweg0yDzkmxIAbEhFreEqjkGChDJrPA7SEzF3EXFyoJYClMOY/vMx+DA0aEUBO26K1vw8/4lzuPHw6lzAMOMYxeeeJjNj2pAxOHxTnPYcDtAuK39clfX+QHxjDWFJHVQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FgkT7hNVAnZs+4dUPhVjpLRnanl5hnMRiBd5Atx5tMwv0+iO40w1wekNVge3tP0A7zjC7TDs/huNsnlsPMXNhG2DT0xQUPWJEh98F4+DMHgKB4NvbagqqmETrmhpHU979s+l/SKd3huF4+Nhmq7mEz93jGcEFOydrjITvXAjhC0= Received: by 10.142.89.9 with SMTP id m9mr199923wfb.1189390122842; Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.84.16 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d5a202f0709091908y2492d234q1ea9e7f2f1ae6763@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:08:42 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <46E2DC80.5060903@lerdorf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CEA2ABE1@us-ex1.zend.net> <46E2CE70.4040907@daylessday.org> <46E2DC80.5060903@lerdorf.com> Subject: Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref From: judas.iscariote@gmail.com ("Cristian Rodriguez") On 9/8/07, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: And yes, if it turns out > to be 10% slower, a lot of sites are going to want to run without it. Sad, I see you have lost the notion about who are the vast mayority of your users. Facebook or any top site that requires extreme performance represents a very small (less than 10%) of your real users. Instead of discussing about speed, I think we should talk about proper behaviuor first, premature optimization is an horrible bad thing. -- http://www.kissofjudas.net/