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Subject: Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

Antony Dovgal wrote:
> On 08.09.2007 21:31, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> Facebook is quite active in APC development.  
> 
> I'm glad for APC, but this is a separate project (or a sub-project, whatever).
> 
>> And yes, if it turns out to be 10% slower, a lot of sites are going to want to run without it.
> 
> Right, but saying that we should be especially careful because this patch may affect company XXX makes no sense to me.
> Either this company is interested in this patch and helps us to make it better, or we follow the usual development process
> (i.e. try to make it as better as we can and release when it's ready, but we don't test it for years to stabilize it).
> 
>> For scripts that aren't very complex and don't run for a long time, GC
>> simply isn't a very interesting feature.
> 
> Well, for not very complex scripts most of the engine improvements are not very interesting.

Sure, but most of them also aren't detrimental to the short and fast
scripts that make up most efficient sites.  Like Stas says, try to avoid
penalties for people who don't use a particular new feature.  This falls
under that same category.

-Rasmus