Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32064 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3346 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Sep 2007 12:49:08 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3330 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 12:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 12:49:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rowe-clan.net from 64.202.165.33 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: wrowe@rowe-clan.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.202.165.33 smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.202.165.33] ([64.202.165.33:35826] helo=smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C1/2E-18766-2C5AED64 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:49:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 16368 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 12:49:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.15.193.17) by smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.33) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2007 12:49:04 -0000 Message-ID: <46DEA5BF.30002@rowe-clan.net> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:49:03 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <20CECB37-7174-498C-85EA-A862923E594D@daleenterprise.com> <1188809931.3317.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46DC0FFC.9040403@mysql.com> <4AA18585-8F96-4A6E-A990-E5FAD0DECA7E@daleenterprise.com> <46DC5EB6.8020805@mysql.com> <925E216E-7B66-4D68-956B-042C1422FE90@daleenterprise.com> <0C276E60-3C18-4A4A-943A-DC58A05FD557@daleenterprise.com> <46DD575F.6070004@mysql.com> <46DD9EE7.6010206@gmail.com> <46DE7E49.5070208@mysql.com> In-Reply-To: <46DE7E49.5070208@mysql.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] buildconf and the generated configure script for PHP6 is faulty [the fix]. From: wrowe@rowe-clan.net ("William A. Rowe, Jr.") Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > >> The complaints over the 4 or 5 I have mentioned on the list has borne >> the remarks that I swamp the list with the reports, how it would be if >> I dumped a couple hundred? > > if you dumped them on the list you would end up in everyones ignore > list as *the list is not the right communication channel for that* Well, other than the totally uncivilized discussion by nearly everyone on this thread, I'd argue that discussing the whole "you must use the one working (long abandoned) version of autoconf" is certainly a good topic for a developer list and a good puzzle to solve. I'd have to agree with Dale on this point; PHP has more fragile dependencies on build tools than any modern open source project out there. I totally disagree with him that not providing binaries is discourteous to users; that's a packager problem (and on Mac/OSX, one to complain to Apple about, eh?) Bill