Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:32032 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93568 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Sep 2007 13:02:55 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93549 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 13:02:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 13:02:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hartmut@mysql.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hartmut@mysql.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain mysql.com from 213.136.52.68 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hartmut@mysql.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.136.52.68 mailgate-out2.mysql.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [213.136.52.68] ([213.136.52.68:41607] helo=mailgate.mysql.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EC/B0-21414-A775DD64 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:02:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.mysql.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l84D2NHr028179; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:02:23 +0200 Received: from mail.mysql.com ([10.222.1.99]) by localhost (mailgate.mysql.com [10.222.1.98]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id 21475-02; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:02:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.100.64.53] (10-100-64-53.mysql.internal [10.100.64.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.mysql.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l84D2LKc008564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:02:22 +0200 Message-ID: <46DD575F.6070004@mysql.com> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:02:23 +0200 Organization: MySQL AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BuildSmart CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <20CECB37-7174-498C-85EA-A862923E594D@daleenterprise.com> <1188809931.3317.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46DC0FFC.9040403@mysql.com> <4AA18585-8F96-4A6E-A990-E5FAD0DECA7E@daleenterprise.com> <46DC5EB6.8020805@mysql.com> <925E216E-7B66-4D68-956B-042C1422FE90@daleenterprise.com> <0C276E60-3C18-4A4A-943A-DC58A05FD557@daleenterprise.com> In-Reply-To: <0C276E60-3C18-4A4A-943A-DC58A05FD557@daleenterprise.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mailgate.mysql.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] buildconf and the generated configure script for PHP6 is faulty [the fix]. From: hartmut@mysql.com (Hartmut Holzgraefe) Dear Mr BuildSmart BuildSmart wrote: > SInce I didn't consider it a bug but rather a minor error of importance= ,=20 just out of curiosity: how do you define "bug" if not as "any error"? > I thought it would best be handled by making the maintainers aware of=20 > the issue since the fix is relatively simple and provided to avoid the = > filing of bug reports which would have occurred. this is wrong in several ways: - your original posting did not include the actual fix but only what should change in the generated configure file the actual fix was only in your mail of 12:10 today. giving you the benefit of the doubt i'd assume for now that it was attached to the original message, too, but got stripped, this would not have happened with a bug report though - the bug database is not only a todo list, it is also a repository of bugs fixed in the past. e.g. have you noticed the duplicate detection when filing a bug? with a bug fixed out of band without involving the bugs db duplicate detection can't kick in on new bug reports - changelog entries usually refer to a bug number, having them point to a mail archive instead would be inconsistant and so bad - same for commit messages ... add to this that it is easy to refer to a bug number but way less so to refer to a distinct email So working around the bug system is not a shortcut, it actually generates *more* work in the long run. The bug system is there to be *used*, not to be circumvented. If you had submitted your finding as a bug report with proper how-to-reproduce instructions (which your original message did not have, what you wrote there was way to vague) and also with your patch to ext/standard/config.m4 things would probably been handled just fine already. Look what mess you caused instead ... :( --=20 Hartmut Holzgraefe, Principal Support Engineer . Discover new MySQL Monitoring & Advisory features at: http://www.mysql.com/products/enterprise/whats_new.html Hauptsitz: MySQL GmbH, Dachauer Str.37, 80335 M=FCnchen Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Kaj Arn=F6 - HRB M=FCnchen 162140