Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31842 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86093 invoked by uid 1010); 22 Aug 2007 14:17:40 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86078 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2007 14:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2007 14:17:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=robert@interjinn.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=robert@interjinn.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain interjinn.com from 66.11.173.122 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: robert@interjinn.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.11.173.122 unknown Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [66.11.173.122] ([66.11.173.122:52424] helo=blobule.interjinn.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 71/A0-16512-4854CC64 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:17:40 -0400 Received: by blobule.interjinn.com (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 099625AC200; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:17:42 -0400 (EDT) To: Lukas Kahwe Smith Cc: Marcus Boerger , Rasmus Lerdorf , Stanislav Malyshev , internals Mailing List In-Reply-To: <46CC4503.7000407@pooteeweet.org> References: <46C9F217.8040804@chiaraquartet.net> <000001c7e3cb$9a80b160$6e02a8c0@thinkpad> <1925889548.20070821122333@marcus-boerger.de> <46CB1E05.4090100@zend.com> <46CBCDC7.1040001@lerdorf.com> <591963703.20070822135708@marcus-boerger.de> <1187791987.10256.73.camel@blobule> <46CC4503.7000407@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: InterJinn Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:17:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1187792261.10256.75.camel@blobule> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] allowing multiple namespaces per file plus namespaces with brackets From: robert@interjinn.com (Robert Cummings) On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 16:15 +0200, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 13:57 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote: > >> Hello Rasmus, > >> > >> the limitations given here and very good explained should imo stay. They > >> should because that is not only easier to understand and easier for anything > >> that has to deal with it like opcode caches and whatnot but also adhrers to > >> the good old KISS approach of PHP. > >> > >> That said, instead of changing the current implementation every day we > >> should step back a bit and first find a consensus whether we want anything > >> more or even anything less than what we currently have. > >> > >> My personal feeling is that we should stick to one name binding per file. > >> And we should do so without braces (if I want it complex I just take a more > >> complex language). > > > > While I agree with the one namespace per file camp I think your above > > argument "if I want it complex I just take a more complex language" is > > akin to saying "If I want it OOP I'll take a more OOP language". I'm > > sure you'll agree that's not a very good argument. > > Make as much hard but common stuff easy, keep the easy stuff easy and > make the hard stuff possible. Could this be our mantra? It's a great mantra, just not always possible :) Cheers, Rob. -- ........................................................... SwarmBuy.com - http://www.swarmbuy.com Leveraging the buying power of the masses! ...........................................................